PTR 3.1 Test Notes and Talent Trees

Submitted by Moordread on Tue, 2009-02-24 10:28. Public

Have fun... (cries for warlocks)

http://www.wowhead.com/?patchnotes=3.1.0-ptr

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Well my DK spec is shot to

Submitted by Robustus on Tue, 2009-02-24 11:11.

Well my DK spec is shot to hell

Howling Blast: Swapped positions with Hungering Cold in the talent tree (HB is now at 51, and HC is now at 31). In addition, the damage bonus for targets with Frost Fever is now only 20%.

Time to find a new Duel Weild Build...

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Nod

Submitted by Toranith on Tue, 2009-02-24 12:32.

Yeah, DKs have a lot of changes coming through - wonder what the new feel will be at the end of the day. I doubt that it'll be a pure duel wield class - that isn't in keeping with some of the original class ideas, but there have been some interesting anomalies before. The 2h dps builds might be the way to go for awhile, but y'all probably have studied up on it more than I have. Good luck working all those numerous changes out. =x

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WOW summon Gargoyle is now a

Submitted by Robustus on Tue, 2009-02-24 21:09.

WOW summon Gargoyle is now a 51 point talent in Unholy
they killed my build, This is horrid not sure I want to continue with my DK now.

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And my warrior yet again...

Submitted by Chaos is born on Tue, 2009-02-24 11:27.

And my warrior yet again... doesn't get affected... in fact this is the third patch in a row with barely any changes to the warrior...

I guess Bliz figured that there wasn't much more they could do to kill the warrior class anyways.

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Heh

Submitted by Toranith on Tue, 2009-02-24 12:26.

Warriors in WotLK seem to be faring better than they were compared to Paladin and Druid tanks. Also, DPS warriors are a much more viable class now. I think Warriors have seen a lot of love when compared to other classes. At least they're not getting consistently nerftuned. Sometimes no news is good news, and the only tuning you're slated to get is a buff. Smile and be thankful - you could be playing a DK and have to relearn how to play/build your class. Smiling

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Ah but all the titanfail

Submitted by Moordread on Tue, 2009-02-24 13:54.

Ah but all the titanfail warriors out there missed the debuff they now put back on titans grip. Instead of a decrease to hit now it is a decrease by 10% to overall damage output. Time to switch back to arms Razz

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Looks like they shot most DW

Submitted by Invictar on Tue, 2009-02-24 12:39.

Looks like they shot most DW specs to hell until you reach a Max gearing setup.

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Rogue Changes

Submitted by Toranith on Tue, 2009-02-24 12:39.

With the changes to the rogue class, we now have a viable raid spec in all three trees, but still aren't where we should be on single target boss dps. I'm a little disappointed, but not at all surprised. The changes to Hunger for Blood in the Assassination tree make it an easier mix in, which is nice - but the dps bonus is useless against unbleedable targets. Combat has been significantly buffed and for several weapon / boss combinations will likely be on par or better than the assassination build. Depending on raid composition, the Subtlety raid build may still outperform both in many scenarios.

Nice to know that even though rogue weapon itemization is pretty woonky right now we can efficiently spec into any tree based on what we're wielding and be about where we were DPSwise in the other trees. Of course, we're not where we should be when compared to other classes on single burn targets, but hey. We get variety. I'll take it. Beats the hell out of a nerf. Smiling

I've got offhanders for daggers, swords and maces. All I need is a main hander for ANY DAMN SET and I'm ready. Stinking blue weaponss...can't get rid of them. Smiling Kind of weird waiting for a weapon drop to determine my spec, though. =x

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Looks like lock affliction

Submitted by Horamir on Tue, 2009-02-24 16:31.

Looks like lock affliction got nerfed overall, tho eradication in affliction actually got a big increase in power. I'm skeptical that limiting haunt and shadow embrace to shadow dots is really all that much of a nerf. The eradication nerf hurts tho, especially if you had lots of crit (which I really didnt, heh). Yay for duel specs, will probably have afflic/demo once the patch hits. The curse of tongues nerf on live right now is pretty annoying in theory, tho you hardly ever use the spell...

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Defeinitly looking forward

Submitted by Skee on Tue, 2009-02-24 19:09.

Defeinitly looking forward to dual spec. Soloing as a protection warrior is kinda funny, but painfully slow. Aggro 3-4 mobs, take next to no damage....just takes a bit of time to kill them and all.

What i'm not so keen on is Blizzard's mention of "a cost". Game designers that think nothing of charging 2k gold for a stupid bag might put a high enough price tag on dual specs to make it difficult for some folks to obtain.

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Ya I am really afraid of the

Submitted by Invictar on Wed, 2009-02-25 01:53.

Ya I am really afraid of the cost... I hope they keep it simple and cheap. Still working on cash for mounts of my pally Smiling

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Sweet.

Submitted by Serrenitty on Wed, 2009-02-25 09:07.

Sounds like they have wacked out stuff pretty bad, not sure I would know what I am doing any more Very happy

If I had the time I would reactivate my horde and whip out a death knight on whisperwind. Hm..

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Current cost on the PTR is

Submitted by Bryn on Fri, 2009-02-27 13:42.

Current cost on the PTR is 1000g to purchase your second spec.

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I think this may end up

Submitted by Camdon on Thu, 2009-02-26 16:05.

I think this may end up being a viable Dual wield spec, as you're still retaining the haste modifiers, Blood Caked Blades, Necrosis and Howling Blast, and a ghoul. However the loss of Impurity really sucks Sad

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it just really annoys me, this is how I envision the Blizzard DK team talkign to us: "Well, we're going to let you dual wield, but we really don't want you to. at all. ever. As a matter of fact, if you find a way to do it, we're probably going to change it. Because Dual wielding doesn't fit into our class concept. But you can do it, just don't."

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